"I was like the wheelie king of the neighborhood, and then along came this guy, Eddie Ebbert, who did a rock walk. I knew I had to learn it to be rad. Eddie and I learned all the tricks after that. We eventually built a ramp. It was a bunch of boards nailed against a telephone pole. It was sketchy, but at least it hit vert. It was only nailed in the center. If you hit the sides, it would turn. That ramp lasted about a month. Then we built a kick-turn ramp and practiced rollbacks”.